[RARE] Turns down fanmade doc | Big fansite closes | New canceled game surfaces

Why is information dating to 2007 and earlier, news?

Why have so many posts connected games cancelled years ago to Kinect, when those events pre-dated MS even acquiring Natal's technology?

BTW, that Stampede game was going to be a sequel to Rare's GBA IP called "SabreWulf"

M$ OhSnapitz

With so many of the main staff gone, it isn't the same Rare from the older days anyway.

You may see the same thing with Team Ninja, if people think they are gonna be the same as before... well we'll see.

Why is information dating to 2007 and earlier, news?

Why have so many posts connected games cancelled years ago to Kinect, when those events pre-dated MS even acquiring Natal's technology?

SUD123456

I like how it backfired. If You treat humans like that, this is what You get. They will speak of the truth and eventually You're screwed.

I like how it backfired. If You treat humans like that, this is what You get. They will speak of the truth and eventually You're screwed.

KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

I like how it backfired. If You treat humans like that, this is what You get. They will speak of the truth and eventually You're screwed.

alexside1

Compared to 10-15 years ago,Rare simply isn't the same company.In personnel or vision.

I'm Pretty sure no key personnel that were with the company that churned out AAA titles every 6 months back in its N64 heyday are still with Rare today.

Compared to 10-15 years ago,Rare simply isn't the same company.In personnel or vision.

I'm Pretty sure no key personnel that were with the company that churned out AAA titles every 6 months back in its N64 heyday are still with Rare today.

stvee101

Shame. Being bought by Microsoft was the worst thing that could have happeneded to Rare none of their games, not even new Banjo Kazooie game, was any good although the vehicle gameplay was entertaining. Funny how a they went from being one of the most revered studios who' s every single game was praised, has been reduced to releasingKinect shovelware and Avatars junk that no one wanted.

Shame. Being bought by Microsoft was the worst thing that could have happeneded to Rare none of their games, not even new Banjo Kazooie game, was any good although the vehicle gameplay was entertaining. Funny how a they went from being one of the most revered studios who' s every single game was praised, has been reduced to releasingKinect shovelware and Avatars junk that no one wanted.

KamikazeDonut

Like I said,the company is basically Rare in name only.

Personnel-wise,this is a completely different company that created all those great games back in the day.

[QUOTE="KamikazeDonut"]

Shame. Being bought by Microsoft was the worst thing that could have happeneded to Rare none of their games, not even new Banjo Kazooie game, was any good although the vehicle gameplay was entertaining. Funny how a they went from being one of the most revered studios who' s every single game was praised, has been reduced to releasingKinect shovelware and Avatars junk that no one wanted.

Like I said,the company is basically Rare in name only.

Personnel-wise,this is a completely different company that created all those great games back in the day.

[QUOTE="stvee101"]

[QUOTE="KamikazeDonut"]

Shame. Being bought by Microsoft was the worst thing that could have happeneded to Rare none of their games, not even new Banjo Kazooie game, was any good although the vehicle gameplay was entertaining. Funny how a they went from being one of the most revered studios who' s every single game was praised, has been reduced to releasingKinect shovelware and Avatars junk that no one wanted.

KamikazeDonut

Like I said,the company is basically Rare in name only.

Personnel-wise,this is a completely different company that created all those great games back in the day.

Yeah I agree there is still a lot of talent at the company,those games you listed prove that.But I don't think MS is willing to give them the resourses or time to create many more games like that now.

And they'll never get back to the point of creating critically-acclaimed game after critically-acclaimed game like they did during the n64 period.

Well that was the most depressing thing I will read todayDiviniuz

man come on rare, ill give them the benefit of the doubt on the doc based on bad pr management but for games? sheesh who wouldnt love a new conker game, but with microsoft moving towards more of a family oriented add campaign the chances of a new conker game drop even more

I don't see what the news is in this thread. Rare turned down a fan group's request to film a documentary that would have required access to their studio and personel? Who cares? I'd imagine that most studios would do the same to any group of random "filmmaking and journalism graduates," even if that group operated a fan site.

[QUOTE="KamikazeDonut"] Well they still have talent and creativity Viva Pinata, Banjo Kazooie, and Perfect Dark Zero all had great orignal ideas they just need time and expierence to make their games great but, there being dragged down by Microsoft and the quest for casualization. Which is well..dumb.Ninja-Hippo

Perhaps being the major dev where Kinect is concerned is right where they belong giving them some new creative tools on which upon to rise again to greatness and be that very special dev we all new & loved. :oops:

It's a Massive.. We shall see.

Repeats to self...

" the glass is half full, the glass is half full, the glass is half full " :P

Wait, they are dead now?:(

Easily one of the worst things I read this year too.

The System Wars game isn't relevant here; metascores are a better metric of developer output, and on the 360 Rare has been a A-AA developer.

[QUOTE="lucky_star"]

Sounds like Microsoft is soon going to close yet another studio.

Anyone surprised? This is what you get with MS...

shinrabanshou

There's only one way to return Rare back to it's former glory and that's selling it back to Nintendo and I don't think that's happening anytime soon.

Also if Microsoft didn't want Rare to make a Conker Game....why did they buy Rare in the First place?

Not only that but they killed Banjo Kazooie, Haven't even Attempted to bring Killer Instinct back, Perfect Dark has been a sham, and No Battletoads???

Now Banjo Kazooie and Perfect Dark XBLA are alright and so are the Pinata Games and I think Kameo has a great reception but honestly that's only 2 new games that Rare got right for the Xbox. Banjo Kazooie and Tooie and Perfect Dark XBLA are just re-releases of the N64 titles.

Rare isn't what they are anymore.

ok the fansite doesnt even know that the old rare is gone? Rare was gone BEFORE microsoft bought them, microsoft bought the name not the people. golden eye wasnt released because nintedno wouldnt allow it

Rare became a joke years ago. Why 360 fanboys/Rare fanboys never seemed to accept this was beyond me.

RobBourne

There's only one way to return Rare back to it's former glory and that's selling it back to Nintendo and I don't think that's happening anytime soon.

LegatoSkyheart

[QUOTE="RobBourne"]

Rare became a joke years ago. Why 360 fanboys/Rare fanboys never seemed to accept this was beyond me.

JLF1

Yeah, they've only released 3 AA games and 1 AAA game this gen :|

They clearly suck.

other than viva piniata which was fine, nothing special. And Kameo which was good but came out 5 years ago, those games sucked.. ALOT

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]There's only one way to return Rare back to it's former glory and that's selling it back to Nintendo and I don't think that's happening anytime soon.

foxhound_fox

well yeah most of their Team from the N64 age are gone but that still doesn't make the excuse of why they are so bad now.

ok the fansite doesnt even know that the old rare is gone? Rare was gone BEFORE microsoft bought them, microsoft bought the name not the people. golden eye wasnt released because nintedno wouldnt allow it

gamer-adam1

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

[QUOTE="RobBourne"]

Rare became a joke years ago. Why 360 fanboys/Rare fanboys never seemed to accept this was beyond me.

VendettaRed07

Yeah, they've only released 3 AA games and 1 AAA game this gen :|

They clearly suck.

other than viva piniata which was fine, nothing special. And Kameo which was good but came out 5 years ago, those games sucked.. ALOT

They're bad compared to what they were years ago, but as any othe developer in this industry dishing out AA+ titles, id say that's slightly above average if not average. Microsoft likely ruined them, but there were other factors as well.

well yeah most of their Team from the N64 age are gone but that still doesn't make the excuse of why they are so bad now.

LegatoSkyheart

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

well yeah most of their Team from the N64 age are gone but that still doesn't make the excuse of why they are so bad now.

foxhound_fox

Yeah I agree, as much as I hated Banjo Kazooie nuts & bolts, I have to give it to them that game was absolutely beautiful. I loved the art design, the way the levels looked everything. Except the gameplay was god awful. Which sucks I think this is an occasion where they didnt even NEED to be creative with it, just make a flipping 3D platformer.. I dont understand why they felt the need to go crazy and make all of this car platforming stuff.. I mean god we havent even gotten a sandbox type 3D platformer since Mario Sunshine about 8 years ago....So theres no need to try and reinvent it right now its not like anyones overloaded or sick of them Im DYING to play another one like that. If we had one where banjo could run, jump, climb and collect notes in environments like that holy crap that would have been amazing.. but oh well...

Casuals are winningtomarlyn

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Casuals are winningnintendoboy16

Maybe Sony should pick them up...DarkStraberry

Meaning Rare has been with the big 3!

all the talent left rare

how many times must we tell you

at least blizzard closed down blizzard north

Ultizer

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

That's pathetic how Microsoft manages Rare. Really bad.

Then again, Rare has been dead for quiet some time, even before Microsoft's buyout, when a lot of core people left the team. They aren't the same as they used to be, definitely.

Kameo was good, but definitely not up to par as other Rare titles from the past. Same goes for BK: Nuts and Bolts (imo). Perfect Dark Zero seemed pretty awful from the demo, but I've never played the full game so I don't know.

OhSnapitz

Casuals are winningtomarlyn